Mar 31st 2002, 19:59 GMT #

March 31, 2002.

As of today, PJG finally outgrew its current hosting plan - the biggest virtual server plan there is @ DreamHost. For the moment, the database has been disabled by my hoster because it brought down the database server it was running on. :(

The database causes too much load to be hosted on a virtual server. Actually it causes so much load that it brings down the mySQL server it’s running on. (Remember, it’s a shared server for a bunch of my hoster’s customers.) I’m within the traffic limits (because I got another cheapo hoster to host all the images and files), I’m within the storage limits, the only problem is the load the site is causing alltogether.

So that means that the site would require an upgrade to a dedicated server if I want to keep it running in it’s current state, with the news, the boards, the user customization, the squad support and all the other stuff that’s part of the big pile of code that’s making PJG what it is.

I’ve optimized all the database queries and connects and everything, but that doesn’t change anything anymore. The limit has been reached. Anyways, I’ve evaluated a few options, but to no avail. Here are a few:

  1. Cut down some services, or disable the message boards: would it be PJG anymore if I take away big parts of its most important feature, the squad support? No. Pass.
  2. Get another, dedicated mySQL server somewhere else and keep the site running on two different servers (different hosts for web and db): causes lag (it does), plus the traffic between the two servers would eat up way too much bandwidth.
  3. Move the site to another host: for the current quality of service my host is offering a great and cheap hosting plan. I got excellent support and a hassle-free service. Plus I don’t have the time to move the whole damn site somewhere else right now. (And to be honest, I don’t want to… it’s hard to find a really good hosting company.)
  4. I turn it off for good and walk away.
  5. There are enough donation subscriptions to pay for it. I need $400/month.

Conclusion: a site of this size obviously needs a dedicated server. I knew this day would be coming, I’m just surprised it came so fast.

The problem is: I can’t afford to shell out $400/month to keep it running. Hell, I couldn’t afford the $180/month it was costing up until now, that’s why I started the donation thing, which has worked fine so far. So, I’m plain out asking for either your ideas or your money. The site was supposed to be a hobby, but it’s more like a 2nd job by now, which is okay, I chose this way, but I’m not too comfortable with selling my car for it. ;)

I hate to write this, really, but I guess it’s better than secretly choosing option #4.

Edited on Mar 31st 2002, 20:15 by Gossip

Edited on Mar 10th 2003, 13:48 by Gossip

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  • i'm all for donating some more to this great venture of yours. count me in.
  • You've got my $5 per month!

    Daeb
  • I am in. PJG has provided me with many hours of entertainment. We can't let it go down.
  • You have my 5.00 per month I love your site and while im at it thank you for all the work you do.
  • Count me in...I'll simply die without PJG.
  • Yes it looks like you will need a dedicated server. Now the real question is: how much load do you actually use?
    Because one dedicated server doesn't cost as mch as the other and there are some sweet (cheap) deals out there.

    BTW. Another option to earn a bit of money would be banners, but with th ecurrent banner market that won't earn you very much.
  • I'll try to help. I dont know how much and how often yet.

    But, you think ND and MG could kick $200 to help out.

    This site does wonders for JG.
  • Maybe ND and/or MG can host PJG.
  • Take down the damn forums dude. Last time I checked you had a crazy thread count going. Squads can find ways to communicate without you. Shut them damn things down.

    If any squad in the GAME says they would rather you turn off pjg than them go find another free website/voice comm/ USING F2/ irc client, then I say screw them.

    Leave pjg on, maybe with the ND cross server wishlist (only dev guys can post new threads) and THAT'S IT. Don't start charging dude, because right now I couldn't afford a freaking hot lunch. I just used all my vacation time so its like TRIPLE shifts for me.

    Cmon man. I love pjg, but I am not gonna pay when I know you could cut out alot of those free services you are offering.
  • RoyofCA, no one is making the PJG payments mandatory. i repeat, this is completely volunteraly. and we don't mind if you cannot donate because you don't have any extra money, because i beleive we all know how tough it can be sometimes. its just a game after all. however some of us that could and willing to help may try to save the PJG in its current form, because this is the form that many many people like.

    Edited on Mar 31st 2002, 21:36 by Silencerr
  • I'd be happy to contribute, Carlo. Don't listen to Roy (no one else does). The squad features are GREAT.
  • I also think ND should provide some subsidy, too.
  • lets also email ND and ask if there's anything they could do to help us out here. i think they know how much important PJG is to many of us and how different jumpgate would be without it.
  • referring to #6:

    Gossip, I understand u have some Dreamserver "RaQ 4r" in mind (thats the one they offer for $400). I don't know about traffic/storage u need, but did u consider to rent some dedicated puretec.de server ? Traffic/storage is a bit less than the RaQ 4r, but perhaps it fits (and its about EUR100/month)
  • Im in! You've got my $5/month. Anything I can do to help. Hate to see one of JG's primary sites go down. C'mon ND..help him out here!!
  • hell, I was surprised that you didn't already have some kind of dedicated db server already! heres my $5!!!

    P.S. anyone have ANY clue whats up with JOSSH? I can't seem to get to it and for some reason my paypal subscription thing canceled(even though I have plenty left on the account it would take from) so I can't log in :(
  • drizzt, GMs said on :help that its "messed up". which IMO is a useless answer since we obviously already know that much anyway =)

    but lets not hijack the thread ;)
  • I still find the timing very funny... I mean Gossip makes the post on the Jossh forums...then they crash. See JG can't survive without PJG. hmmm did you post this on MightyGames as well?

    I would like to help you out but I can't afford to. I'm sorry. I wish you the best of luck though. PJG is the best fansite I have ever seen for any game. JG will not be the same without the wealth of information that you provide. I wish I could help out cash wise but I can't. Again I am sorry.

    Edited on May 17th 2002, 03:34 by Druid
  • #14 - no, I'm looking at the New Moon setup. But I got a Puretec server that serves all the images and files, it's just a simple fileserver, but it needs to be paid as well.
  • OK you got my $5/month. Hell, I'll drink more money than that tonight. At least PJG won't give me a headache tomorrow morning.

    Go Gossip Go!! Get back online.
  • Well you get my help as well as PJG rocks.

    Count me in with $5/month!

    Cheers
  • I would donate my part.. if I could. I have the 20€ bill right here, but the bank wont give me a credit card until year 2144. Go figure that out yourself. If I find someone who does the paypal thing for me in Finland, I'm in.
  • well, count me in with a $5/month subscribtion, as PJG simply rocks.

    I just wish the link for the $5 subscribtion would work.....
  • #23, i just tried the $5 subscription link again and it seems okay to me. what exactly is not working when you try to go there?
  • I'm in, I'll help. Gossip, also, I may be able to clear a dedicated server at work for less. Let me know what your requirements are and we'll see. I don't check this board, so email me at Martlet@geoffrey-allen.com if you want me to look into this.
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